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    This game was the least efficient game we played this year. Why? It wasn't because of the skill level of our players . I believe it was because of the mental and emotional drain that the 48 hours preceding this game took on our players. I think they were worn out mentally. Way to much hoopla and attention given to our guys constantly took it's toll. Putting our players in a mental frame they and our coaches had not experienced before. I do believe we were the best team on the floor that game. It's a learning experience that coaches and staff will learn from going forward. When ever you are the first to achieve something, especially of this magnitude, it is difficult. It will help the future teams for years. I am so proud of these guys. Thanks for the enjoyable experience of watching you perform this year Zag players.

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    I am proud of them too regardless of outcome.

    Still think Collins fouling out was the dagger though
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    • #3
      Originally posted by gonzagafan62 View Post
      I am proud of them too regardless of outcome.

      Still think Collins fouling out was the dagger though
      This. He dominated NC.

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      • #4
        The length and defensive intensity of UNC.

        Pure and simple.
        I miss Mike Hart

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        • #5
          Originally posted by gonzagafan62 View Post
          I am proud of them too regardless of outcome.

          Still think Collins fouling out was the dagger though
          +1000 I do think UNC experience in these moments was the difference. Next season, it will be GU with that experience. UNC came out in the second half with a purpose and the Zags were flat for the first 5 minutes.
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          • #6
            Maybe they ate turkey sandwiches at half time.

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            • #7
              Collins plays 5 more mins & we win.

              Also, NWG and Karno were combined 6-26 from the field.

              Karno was only doubled once. He missed at least 7 bunnies, easy layups shots he made all year, all career.

              Same with Nigel. Missed runners & floaters that are automatic for him.

              His bum ankle messed up his timing/jumping.

              These are all excuses, yet IF Shem makes just 2 more of this 7 missed shots, or Nigel didnt roll an ankle vs SC, or Collins has 2 phantom fouls, we are National Champs today.

              Even just 1 of those 3, we win.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by gonzagafan62 View Post
                I am proud of them too regardless of outcome.

                Still think Collins fouling out was the dagger though
                Agree, on a phantom call at that.
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                • #9
                  The bookends aspect of this game,
                  Perkins turning the ball over in the first and last minute of the game did not help.

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                  • #10
                    Roy stopped our 2 best players. He put length on NWG and sent players at ZC all night, imploring the refs for calls. He lived w Josh's scoring in the first half, much of which Josh gave back with egregious TOs. Karno was the wildcard and did not deliver.

                    Great season. NWG is gone, no way he plays a 5th year vs WCC talent. He will hope for a FA signing or go overseas and make half a mil type money. Needs to start honing his craft; Portland, Pep, etc not the place for that.

                    ZC another story. He's prob 50-50 but his best pal is leaving and the team will be weaker. Perform at the combine and he's gone.

                    Both gone, Zags will dip. A relative term, of course. Look for 25-28 wins and plenty of new faces.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Goshzagit View Post
                      Collins plays 5 more mins & we win.

                      Also, NWG and Karno were combined 6-26 from the field.

                      Karno was only doubled once. He missed at least 7 bunnies, easy layups shots he made all year, all career.

                      Same with Nigel. Missed runners & floaters that are automatic for him.

                      His bum ankle messed up his timing/jumping.

                      These are all excuses, yet IF Shem makes just 2 more of this 7 missed shots, or Nigel didnt roll an ankle vs SC, or Collins has 2 phantom fouls, we are National Champs today.

                      Even just 1 of those 3, we win.
                      Exactly, but UNC's experience and length created these effects coupled with the refs destroying any momentum for us to capitalize on our runs.
                      Go Zags!!!

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                      • #12
                        When you're looking at a 1 point game with under a minute to go, I don't think there is a "reason" we lost. It's just the way games go. I understand talking about things we could have done differently, things North Carolina did well, things we did poorly, etc. etc. but at the end of the day coming up with a reason one team lost a back and forth game attempts to change one component of an extremely complicated, dynamic event while leaving all of the other components the same. That might give you a contributing factor to a loss, but it isn't "the reason" we lost.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Goshzagit View Post
                          Collins plays 5 more mins & we win.

                          Also, NWG and Karno were combined 6-26 from the field.

                          Karno was only doubled once. He missed at least 7 bunnies, easy layups shots he made all year, all career.

                          Same with Nigel. Missed runners & floaters that are automatic for him.

                          His bum ankle messed up his timing/jumping.

                          These are all excuses, yet IF Shem makes just 2 more of this 7 missed shots, or Nigel didnt roll an ankle vs SC, or Collins has 2 phantom fouls, we are National Champs today.

                          Even just 1 of those 3, we win.
                          NWG faced a big challenge in Jackson, but he still missed so many of his bread and butter shots. The other guards needed to step up. Berry would seem to have been the guy to attack.

                          I agree that Shem seemed to get into the shots he wanted and just missed them. Poor guy. I'm sure he feels terrible about it.

                          Collins was the most effect player out there. It's really too bad he couldn't stay in the game. A more experienced player might adapt to the way the game was called and find a way to avoid a few of those fouls. I don't know, though. It was tough to watch.

                          So many woulda, coulda, shouldas running through my mind during this hangover after the loss.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by MickMick View Post
                            The length and defensive intensity of UNC.

                            Pure and simple.
                            in a nutshell ...

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                            • #15
                              I don't think there is ever one thing that leads to a loss. It's a multitude of things. It has an accumulative effect.

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