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    I've been thinking a lot about Joel lately, and especially after his last two games where he averaged 17.5 ppg and 10 rebounds. It was great to see him come out of his shell over these last two games, and I hope that he continues to do so. The accuracy of his 3 pointers has returned, and this makes the Zags even more dangerous now. Joel is averaging 12.2 ppg this season and 8 rebounds. He's the leading rebounder on the team and the 4th leading scorer. Yes, there are 4 Zags scoring in double figures, and Nembhard is at 9.8, just two tenths of one point from averaging ten points per game.

    I came to love Joel's game last year and especially in the Conference Championship Tournament where he was voted the most valued player in that tournament. It was also well deserved as Joel showed all the talent he has. I was really looking forward to seeing Joel continue to be one of the leading players on this team, but early on it just wasn't happening for whatever reason. He just didn't appear to use his talent at all. Joel certainly appears to be an amazing unselfish player, as game after game he just took a back seat to the other super talented players. And there is no doubt that this Gonzaga team certainly has an abundance of very talented players, capable of playing in the NBA. But when Suggs was injured last week, it was Ayayi who stepped up, scoring 16 of his eighteen points in the first half of the Dixie State game. I think he made 5 three pointers. For his excellent play in the last two games he was voted as the Player of the Week in the WCC. That's quite an honor when you had someone like Corey Kispert who probably averaged 25 points a game in those two games.

    So back to the question raised in this thread, is Joel good enough to play in the NBA. My answer is yes, and I believe that there is a team out there looking for a player just like Joel Ayayi, a capable scorer who is unselfish, and who can get you those timely offensive rebounds. Ayayi could possible be another Dennis Rodman type of player who certainly helped the Chicago Bulls to a number of NBA titles.

    Go Zags!
    Go Zags!!! The Best Is Yet To Come!!!

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    Yes

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    • #3
      Enjoy this final season at GU for Joel. I don’t think he’ll return, as he graduated in December.

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      • #4
        My best guess for next year’s draft.

        Suggs - Lottery
        Kispert - 1st round
        Ayayi - 2nd round

        So if you’re talking about next year, I guess my answer is yes to Joel but no to being the 4th.
        Birds aren’t real.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by 23dpg View Post
          My best guess for next year’s draft.

          Suggs - Lottery
          Kispert - 1st round
          Ayayi - 2nd round

          So if you’re talking about next year, I guess my answer is yes to Joel but no to being the 4th.
          I was thinking about Timme also.
          Go Zags!!! The Best Is Yet To Come!!!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Reborn View Post
            I was thinking about Timme also.
            I’m not as sure he’d get drafted next year. But if he comes out I’d wish him the best.
            Birds aren’t real.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Reborn View Post
              I was thinking about Timme also.
              I think he needs to prove that he has an outside shot.
              Not even a smile? What's your problem!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Reborn View Post
                I've been thinking a lot about Joel lately, and especially after his last two games where he averaged 17.5 ppg and 10 rebounds. It was great to see him come out of his shell over these last two games, and I hope that he continues to do so. The accuracy of his 3 pointers has returned, and this makes the Zags even more dangerous now. Joel is averaging 12.2 ppg this season and 8 rebounds. He's the leading rebounder on the team and the 4th leading scorer. Yes, there are 4 Zags scoring in double figures, and Nembhard is at 9.8, just two tenths of one point from averaging ten points per game.

                I came to love Joel's game last year and especially in the Conference Championship Tournament where he was voted the most valued player in that tournament. It was also well deserved as Joel showed all the talent he has. I was really looking forward to seeing Joel continue to be one of the leading players on this team, but early on it just wasn't happening for whatever reason. He just didn't appear to use his talent at all. Joel certainly appears to be an amazing unselfish player, as game after game he just took a back seat to the other super talented players. And there is no doubt that this Gonzaga team certainly has an abundance of very talented players, capable of playing in the NBA. But when Suggs was injured last week, it was Ayayi who stepped up, scoring 16 of his eighteen points in the first half of the Dixie State game. I think he made 5 three pointers. For his excellent play in the last two games he was voted as the Player of the Week in the WCC. That's quite an honor when you had someone like Corey Kispert who probably averaged 25 points a game in those two games.

                So back to the question raised in this thread, is Joel good enough to play in the NBA. My answer is yes, and I believe that there is a team out there looking for a player just like Joel Ayayi, a capable scorer who is unselfish, and who can get you those timely offensive rebounds. Ayayi could possible be another Dennis Rodman type of player who certainly helped the Chicago Bulls to a number of NBA titles.

                Go Zags!
                Are you thinking Kispert, Suggs, Ayayi and Timme? I think the first 3 are gone for sure but not sure about Drew. I agree with the previous post - He needs to prove that he can hit the outside shot more consistently. What is the probability he leaves?
                Love the Zags!!!

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                • #9
                  Timme? Zero chance. His production has dropped last few games, his defense is not dominant, and outside shot spotty. If he leaves next year, he'll have a Zach Norvell pro career. I don't think Zach was going to improve his game staying, but Drew can still improve and raise his stock. I like Drew, love his swagger. He's not yet in the Sabonis or Olynyk league.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by tummydoc View Post
                    Timme? Zero chance. His production has dropped last few games, his defense is not dominant, and outside shot spotty. If he leaves next year, he'll have a Zach Norvell pro career. I don't think Zach was going to improve his game staying, but Drew can still improve and raise his stock. I like Drew, love his swagger. He's not yet in the Sabonis or Olynyk league.
                    Timme could stay for ten years and not get to KO much less TB level. Great college player, great young man.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by jazzdelmar View Post
                      Timme could stay for ten years and not get to KO much less TB level. Great college player, great young man.
                      I really like his game! He has some of the best foot work I've seen at GU or in the college game. He is tough to defend too! However, could he be another Love (Cleveland not Chicago)? Don't know but he would need to be lights-out from behind the arc...BUT who could he defend at the next level? Think he would need to develop an enormous amount of quickness and leaping abilities just don't see him defending Davis or the Greek Freek or KO...

                      Oh, forgot...this thread is about Joel...not sure he has the skill set to compete in the NBA and compare him to Nigel-Goss...both excellent college players but just a notch below the NBA...Europe seems to be where he would be extremely effective

                      Not taking away from these two wonderful persons/players but just my opinion and sometimes my opinions are wrong or at least that's what my wife says...

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Bogozags View Post
                        I really like his game! He has some of the best foot work I've seen at GU or in the college game. He is tough to defend too! However, could he be another Love (Cleveland not Chicago)? Don't know but he would need to be lights-out from behind the arc...BUT who could he defend at the next level? Think he would need to develop an enormous amount of quickness and leaping abilities just don't see him defending Davis or the Greek Freek or KO...

                        Not taking away from this wonderful person/player but just my opinion and sometimes my opinions are wrong or at least that's what my wife says...
                        More like Casey, Batista, Elias, Sam, Shem, the projection is not bright. Great college players. Not everyone makes the NBA. Tims will be just fine. Kevin L dominated at UCLA and Bob L, wow what a player.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by jazzdelmar View Post
                          Timme could stay for ten years and not get to KO much less TB level. Great college player, great young man.
                          No one predicted KO would explode in his fourth year at GU, not All-American first-round level.

                          Timme doesn't have KO's footwork, nor strength. If Timme got much stronger, put on some muscle weight, chisel himself out a bit, he might well get close. Kelly was a bit taller, but, still. I think he can get closer than you think.

                          Reading through comments, it seems like strength and physicality are the two biggest issues. He'd get mowed over, impolitely, in the NBA. But if he shows he can shoot and get much stronger and defend better? Might push stock up.


                          Ayayi, I'm higher on than just about anyone. He's never been the go-to guy, but he simply never misses around the rim, it's ridiculous. Plus, I'm starting to trust his 3 as much as anyone else, or more, except Kispert.
                          Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.
                          Mark Twain.

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                          • #14
                            no....but they will make a lot of euros...

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by DZ View Post
                              No one predicted KO would explode in his fourth year at GU, not All-American first-round level.
                              I did....when he was a freshman, not AA first round, but NBA....

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