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  • Originally posted by zagfan24 View Post
    I don't agree that this incident will have a significant negative impact on recruiting. As many have noted, all people make mistakes. If I'm a parent of a high level recruit, and I'm guessing most will share this perspective, I want a coach who takes responsibility, owns up to his mistakes, is humble enough to admit when he is wrong, and doesn't repeat the same mistakes in the future. If all that is true, then I'm hopeful that coach will be the right person to teach my young son similar values. I also would hope that the reaction of a fan base that shows compassion and forgiveness would extend to my child as well.

    I don't think speculating about the nature of his driving or field sobriety test is worth debating based on police reports, media reports, etc. It's all speculation and word parsing. That said, I'm actually finding this thread quite reasonable even within disagreements.

    I'll end by noting that on a personal level I have one memory of getting behind a wheel when I shouldn't have, and though nothing happened and I wasn't significantly impaired, I still have guilt about it to this day. I'm sure many are the same. As legal limits decrease and beer ABV increases, it is REALLY easy to get above the legally required BAC. With Uber/Lyft/etc., there is really no excuse. Between 3 kids and covid, I don't really go out much at all anymore...but even if it's going to a friends house, I find it really helpful to just Uber there and take the decision out of my hands. Even the most level headed, responsible person has their judgement clouded by alcohol. It's actually more dangerous for those with a strong "tolerance" because they can feel and function so normally. That doesn't mean that reaction time and alertness are not impaired. Please be safe, all. It's never worth it.

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    • Originally posted by AirborneJag View Post
      A few (no pun intended) come to mind. First, we have all sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God. Second, those who live in glass houses should not throw stones. Third, whomever is without sin can cast the first stone. Finally, there but by the Grace of God go I.

      I am not approving Fewie’s actions nor am I defending them. He was wrong and I think his statement acknowledges that fact. If we are honest, a lot of us will admit we’ve been in that same exact place and made the same exact (poor) decision and I include myself in that statement. And I should have known better since I defended DUI cases in Coeur d’Alene early in my legal career. Yah - Fewie makes enough to hire a driver; yah - he should have waited an hour longer and maybe his blood alcohol would have declined, yah - he is a public figure, the face of Gonzaga and there should be held to a higher standard that by the way, no key board ranger here could possibly meet unless they are a hermit, and yadda, yadda, yah. And no, it’s not lack of cooperation to refuse to perform the field sobriety test - it’s called sound legal advice from someone. I would say he needs and will be held accountable both by the law and by the University and so everyone take a deep breath and let this work out.
      - spot on!

      - except no, most of those who have made judgments in this post will not be honest and admit they have made the same mistake. you, zagnative and zagfan24 are the exception far as i saw. too you 3 i respect and applaud your comments.

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      • Originally posted by GonzaGAW View Post
        - spot on!

        - except no, most of those who have made judgments in this post will not be honest and admit they have made the same mistake. you, zagnation and zagfan24 are the exception far as i saw. too you 3 i respect and applaud your comments.
        There were two occasions while attending Gonzaga that I drove when I shouldn’t have. I don’t know if I was over the limit, but it would have been close either way.

        Alcohol can cloud judgement. Saying that a 50-year old shouldn’t have done this or that ignores this reality.

        Please, read his statement and if you don’t have anything helpful to add, don’t chime in. That, as it turns out, applies to most areas of life.

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        • Just a quick PSA crediting forum members and the mods for creating/maintaining a generally respectful thread even where there are disagreements. Need more of that (not just here but in the world generally).
          Your children have been placed in the custody of...Carl's Jr.

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          • Originally posted by ZagsObserver View Post
            There were two occasions while attending Gonzaga that I drove when I shouldn’t have. I don’t know if I was over the limit, but it would have been close either way.

            Alcohol can cloud judgement. Saying that a 50-year old shouldn’t have done this or that ignores this reality.

            Please, read his statement and if you don’t have anything helpful to add, don’t chime in. That, as it turns out, applies to most areas of life.
            It's true that alcohol clouds judgement for anyone, but someone like Mark Few should be thinking twice before drinking and getting behind the wheel. He should have a plan for those types of scenarios.

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            • I drove one time when I should not have when at GU and living at home... it was why I moved on campus not long after.
              "And Morrison? He did what All-Americans do. He shot daggers in the daylight and stole a win." - Steve Kelley (Seattle Times)

              "Gonzaga is a special place, with special people!" - Dan Dickau #21

              Foo me once shame on you, Foo me twice shame on me.

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              • Originally posted by GonzaGAW View Post
                - spot on!

                - except no, most of those who have made judgments in this post will not be honest and admit they have made the same mistake. you, zagnative and zagfan24 are the exception far as i saw. too you 3 i respect and applaud your comments.
                My experience growing up in the 50's and 60's in a white non college greatest generation post war culture was that drinking and driving was nearly universal....not the exception.....in my teens till my thirties I must have done it thousands of times....no accidents or citations and all of my peers did the same thing...it was similar to smoking....dumb....reckless...

                If you were stopped by the cops it was for a traffic violation....mostly speeding or even racing...the cops might confiscate the beer or pour it out but no one was ever charged....this was all changed when the Mothers got Mad....

                And it was a necessary change as thousands of people were killed by drunk drivers.....

                I quit drinking nearly 40 years ago...and never drive distracted ....and thank my lucky stars that I never had a accident or hurt myself or anyone....else....

                I have investigated dozens of accidents with the WSP on forest roads....some fatal....and in every case the cause was a impaired or distracted driver usually going too fast for the conditions...

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                • Originally posted by Murphy outgo lifer View Post
                  For the Lawyers out there, is it advisable for Mark Few to issue a public apology when this is an ongoing case? My guess would be it is not advisable to admit guilt via a public apology before the case is actually closed.
                  I noticed that he didn't admit he was above the legal limit. He said something like "it's bad to get behind the wheel after consuming any amount of alcohol."
                  Also, the public relations/professional consequences of this could be more serious than the legal consequences for him (not that those will be severe either). So, even if something is bad from the perspective of legal strategy, he should maybe say it anyway if it helps him in other areas. Don't wag the dog. -a civil attorney

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                  • A friend of mine is a DUI attorney. He says there is a mountain of evidence that field sobriety tests should be eliminated as many people fail them for health reasons. For instance, I have terrible balance due to a variety of medical problems. So trying to get me to stand on one foot or walk a straight line is really challenging. I never could do the eye test, and my eyes are always glassy due to allergies. One time I was on the side of the highway having issues with my car, and after failing the field sobriety test (which I will never agree to again) I was fine with taking the initial breathalyzer test (you actually get tested 2x). Of course I was 0.00, and so the officer helped me get a tow truck. My attorney friend also says that anyone who has been drinking and driving should opt for a blood test. Never choose the breathalyzer. Breathalyzers have accuracy issues. He knows because one of the first things he does when a client of his gets arrested is he looks at the logs for that breathalyzer to see if there are inconsistencies. Your blood is a much better way of measuring your BAC. I had a buddy in my 20's who got his case dropped because his blood test was well below the legal limit. (it really helped him to have a lawyer. DUI cases are tricky because so many entities are involved).

                    The whole point of all of this is that when you're in that .08-.12 zone, you're playing with fire. You feel as though you can safely get home at that level (and most of the time you can unless you rarely drink), but all it takes is your license plate being out, and the cops can nail you. I always remember as a kid if we went out to dinner, if my mom or dad had more than one (low octane) beer or a glass of wine with dinner, the other person would stick with one drink and do the driving. Once I was able to drive, I volunteered. With Few's money, family, connections, there is really no reason to not to get a cab, call Uber, call a friend or family member, etc. It was definitely poor judgment on his part, but I am also not going to equate what he did with the guy who is out of mind, .20+ and passes out behind the wheel. That being said, it's disappointing.

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                    • Alcohol affects judgment is pretty interesting ways. I have read that alcohol tricks the mind into believing that you are capable of driving when you are least capable to make that decision. One study found:

                      Alcohol also decreases some of the activity of the prefrontal cortex. This part of the brain is what helps you to think clearly and rationally, and it is involved in your decision making abilities. When you drink, alcohol makes it harder for the prefrontal cortex to work as it should, disrupting decision-making and rational thought. In this way, alcohol prompts you to act without thinking about your actions.
                      It's likely that anyone who has gotten behind the wheel after drinking has made a bad decision whether we are willing to admit it or not.

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                      • Alcohol affects judgment is pretty interesting ways. I have read that alcohol tricks the mind into believing that you are capable of driving when you are not capable of driving. One study found:
                        Especially in the BAC area Few was in.

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                        • Originally posted by CDC84 View Post
                          Especially in the BAC area Few was in.
                          Did he blow that on the roadside or back at the station?

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                          • Not sure.

                            These things could be different by county, but the only person I know who got involved in a DUI incident failed the initial roadside blow. About 10 minutes later, he was asked if he wanted to blow again for his official blow (which would've happed on the roadside), or to have his blood drawn. He asked to have his blood taken. There is no doubt that the transportation between his apartment and the hospital (the drunk tank was next door to the hospital) helped drive down his BAC, but not by a huge amount. The breathalyzer in his case clearly had some issues.

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                            • Just finished reading this whole thing and noticed that no one until the last few entrees admitted to driving in the wrong lane....come on guys you were late 19,s thru the 20,s nd 30,s just like everyone else, take Labor day,barbecues,watching the Zags beat Duke at the local sports pub and a few to many it happens, the company has a outing at the lake and its back slapping and beer drinking all afternoon it happens, Ive been very lucky all my life I'm 87 and I've been dry for 15 years and I'm proud of it, did take me longer than most I quess. Rob

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                              • The length and content of this thread is what’s talked about in recovery centers. This is pretty simple. Few tipped over the level with an inaccurate machine. Apparently he was weaving or Speedo g while driving. It’s a common story. The states provide leewAy in applying the law. So now this is just a simple as one man facing an infraction. Likely this thread should end. Nobody’s offering anything new or insightful.
                                Most likely this will end up being a neg driving charge. A fine and off ya go never to drink and drive again.

                                I used to offer intake services for an addiction/recovery center. Unless it was heroin or a major league issue, the drinkers generally made a deal with the courts and got back to work. I think coach will be treated like the usual and customary.

                                It’s just how things are these days. MADD got I the loop and things have changed but the usual thing is as depicted above. Most of the DUI crew have done what coach has done lots of times he just got caught this time. I’m certain he’ll not do it agin.

                                Play ball!!

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