Will we have a season this year?

[LTownZag]

It's a nice try to smuggle in viral dynamics and somehow apply them to a basketball season. I do think, as this virus peters out, that by late fall we will have a season provided that nothing unanticipated happens. Fauci hints that when winter comes there might be increased activity of this virus as well as resurgence of FLU ( which happens anyway).

I linked the NEJM article. It was solely to show we've known of aerosol transmission for weeks. There was no smuggling, attempted or otherwise.

Fauci hints that when winter comes there might be increased activity of this virus as well as resurgence of FLU ( which happens anyway).

Abe, does that actually sound to you like an accurate representation of what Fauci just said?

Or just take this guy's advice:

It’s just a minor variation of the flu. Tony Fauci is running this program for Trump. Listen to what he says.

Watch the video here - the primary source, and let me know if you think you accurately portrayed the words of your friend Mr. Fauci.
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If a TV channel you don't like summarized a politician you do like with that degree of accuracy, how would you feel about them as reliable sources? ("hints...might be increased activity")? Why not just go strait to the source of the quote:


“I’m almost certain it will come back. The virus is so transmissible and it’s globally spread,” Fauci said, noting that as cases in the U.S. stabilize, parts of the world like southern Africa are seeing an increase in cases.

“In my mind, it’s inevitable that we will have a return of the virus or maybe it never went away,” he added.

As states around the country take steps to reopen their economies, Fauci said testing, isolating those who are infected and tracing their contacts will be key in the coming months in keeping the number of projected deaths down to roughly 70,000 or 80,000.

“If by that time we have put into place all of the countermeasures that you need to address this, we should do reasonably well,” Fauci said. “If we don’t do that successfully, we could be in for a bad fall and a bad winter.”

Since a ban was put on Chinese coming to the US, Im certain this largely explains why our mortality is so low. Once China refused to let US Docs in, we knew something ( didn't know what exactly) was up.

-Low mortality? (you still certain of the explanation for a non-existant result? Is that like being certain of Santa's favorite color?)
-China never refused to let international or USA doctors in (and never kicked them out).
-If "we" (Trump and the feds) knew "something was up", why was Trump publicly praising and speaking confidently about China's dictator and the Chinese response throughout January and as late as Feb 7, at least? Why on March 6 would Trump have said "it’s an unforeseen problem. What a problem. Came out of nowhere, but we’re taking care of it."

Big price to pay for big fibs...

[MDABE80]

I don’t know if the moderators want this back and forth to be done again. Taking LTown to school is a bit uninteresting and may be tiresome.. Reno stopped it in the Foo. One might think LTown would get the point. More so when the board here is basketball.

[LTownZag]

More so when the board here is basketball.

The subject of this discussion thread is if COVID-19 will prevent all or part of the upcoming season. That discussion is inherently more about epidemiology that about Xs and Os.

ABE, if you are ever able to find that I've written or linked to anything innacurate, you ever correct any of the many inaccurate things you have broadcast, or you simply stop spreading misinformation as a public-facing MD, I will stop correcting that misinformation and would apologize if anything I write is incorrect. I would like nothing more than factual information being as widely spread as possible.

If you can point me to any evidence that China "kicked out" or refused entry to USA health officials, I'd love to learn more about those events. You've described those events as "beyond dispute" so linking a single article should be simple.

[willandi]

You guys can do it in private messaging...or get a room?

It is for sure that the back and forth, no matter who is right, will get the thread locked.

[Markburn1]

The subject of this discussion thread is if COVID-19 will prevent all or part of the upcoming season. That discussion is inherently more about epidemiology that about Xs and Os.

ABE, if you are ever able to find that I've written or linked to anything innacurate, you ever correct any of the many inaccurate things you have broadcast, or you simply stop spreading misinformation as a public-facing MD, I will stop correcting that misinformation and would apologize if anything I write is incorrect. I would like nothing more than factual information being as widely spread as possible.

If you can point me to any evidence that China "kicked out" or refused entry to USA health officials, I'd love to learn more about those events. You've described those events as "beyond dispute" so linking a single article should be simple.

I linked six in the other thread.

[LTownZag]

I linked six in the other thread.

Mark - thank you!

Here is the link to a list of some stories Mark found about China refusing to let US Doctors visit Wuhan in January, and eventually (Tuesday, Jan 28) agreeing to let doctors in, under the leadership of WHO staff. ( http://guboards.spokesmanreview.com/...02#post1517802 )

It looks like US doctors were never kicked out, but they were also denied entry in January when the HHS secretary requested visitation rights.

I apologize to MDABE80 for doubting this incident, and thank Mr. Mark Burn for linking to some stories about it.